Altitude Check: Tuesday January 17, 2012 Winnipeg Jets Headlines
by TJCAPS on Jan 17, 2012 12:00 PM EST
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PrintHey all! Here is our feature running Monday through Friday that will bring you up to date on what's going on in the media pertaining to the Winnipeg Jets.
Here are your headlines for Tuesday, January 17, 2012:
A review of last night's action. [WFP]
From an Ottawa perspective. [National Post]
Previewing Jets v. Devils. [NHL.com]
Ed Tait tells us that if you wish to break a losing curse, simply quote a Berra verse. Errr...? [WFP]
How will Winnipeg get through this rough patch? Andrew Ladd has it figured out: "It's OK to be angry right now, but you have to make sure you use that anger in the right way. You can't start to blame one another and come apart. That can happen and we need to pull together. We have to be positive right now. I believe that and I believe in what we're trying to do and how we're doing it." [WFP]
Your favourite, Paul Friesen deems that Winnipeg's roster is "too thin" to be considered a contender and he sort of has a point: "This team's talent is thinner than a supermodel, and nowhere near as glamourous. Even when everybody's healthy, the Jets don't have a forward combination you'd say without a doubt is a No. 1 NHL line. They might have one, surefire, front-line player, Evander Kane, and he’s up one week, down the next." [Winnipeg Sun]
It has been stated before, but the Winnipeg Jets are trying hard to shed the New Year's hangover suffered for years by the Atlanta Thrashers: "The week before Christmas, the Thrashers were leading the Southeast Division with 43 points off a 19-11-5 start, only to crash and burn thereafter en route to a 34-36-12 record, 12th overall in the Eastern Conference. And so while the entire country rejoiced in the return of NHL hockey to Winnipeg during the off-season, it is clear halfway through the 2011-12 season that the addition of a seventh team in Canada isn’t going to beef up national playoff content overnight." [Vancouver Sun]
Mark Chipman fields fan questions about the Winnipeg Jets. [WFP]
The Hockey Writer's conclude that now is not the time for Winnipeg to panic. [The Hockey Writers]
Finally a bizarre story from Slovakia, former Philadelphia Flyers prospect Ladislav Scurko is playing hockey again only years after confessing to the murder of referee Marek Liptaj and the burial of his body in a Slovakian forest. [Puck Daddy]
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To counter the idea that our roster is far too thin...
Injuries have been the major story line of our season, but we are still in the hunt.
I agree that we don’t have a line that could top most rosters, but Kane / Little / Wheeler were looking like they might get there before injuries derailed that.
It is a credit to our depth and coaching that we have survived and we are still in the hunt.
I really don’t mind our roster for the time being and I look forward to seeing our full roster play together at some point.
TNSE's huge advantage...
Is that depleted rosters are something they have been accustomed to with their AHL affiliation to Vancouver in the past.
There’s no glitz or glamour to them, but the depth they currently field is serviceable and enough to give them a fighting chance, should their injuries shore up soon.
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by TJCAPS on Jan 17, 2012 12:40 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
On the topic of injuries, does anybody have a list of "Man Games" lost due to injury.
I found this list, but the Jets numbers are very different than the 200 and something they mentioned on the radio yesterday.
I was googling that the other day.
I couldn’t find anything recent myself.
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For reference, this is their list:
Evander Kane (1), Jim Slater (4), Mark Stuart (2), Nik Antropov (7), Tobias Enstrom (20), Eric Fehr (5), Ron Hainsey (8), Derek Meech (26), Randy Jones (9), Alexander Bumistrov (3), Nik Antropov (2), Bryan Little (9), Dystin Byfuglien (10), Tim Stapleton (1), Zach Bogosian (2)
For a total of 108 man games.
I wanted to compare our injuries to others in the league, but this isn’t overly accurate.
I know for sure that the number for Hainsey is very wrong. He has missed 24, not 8.
Eric Fehr has missed 24, not 5.
Antropov has missed 8, not 2.
I am pretty sure Jones missed more than 9.
Wheeler and Festerling aren’t listed.
Right there is another 60 or so.
Yeah Winnipeg's counts are way off.
I can only imangine it’s the same for all 30 teams. It’s too bad, because if upkept properly, that site would be an incredibly valuable for writers/bloggers/fans.
Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos!
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Site
That site is mine — I saw the views from here and updated the counts. It’s generally updated every day and I do my best, but I didn’t even create the list until last month. At that point it was really difficult to differentiate for 30 teams, which players missed time due to injury and which were healthy scratches, etc. By the time I (sorry, but after 6 hours I was ready to be done!) got to Winnipeg, I’m sure I missed quite a few.
It’s been updated via the USA Today injury list since December forth and as I see people talking about errors, I change it. But it’s a lot easier to do when I don’t have to search through comments… so let me know! I want to keep it as updated as possible since it is a stat a lot of people search for and it’s not exactly kept track of in a good format.
by Sabres in Seven on Jan 17, 2012 4:16 PM EST up reply actions
understandable
can’t fault you, you are but one person and it seems like a time consuming endeavor.
consider your site book marked by me, I will be revisiting this list in the future as it’s extremely valuable information.
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Just to be a little more of a pain in your butt.
I think Enstom was correct at 20.
Meech is is something like 40, not 43.
Festerling missed 7 or 8 games.
Antropov was at 8. I brought him up by accident.
Jones was somewhere between 20 – 25.
Update
Meech has only played 2 games this season, unless he was a healthy scratch for a few…? Let me know.
Added Festerling – looks like he was on IR for 11 games.
Apparently had Antropov on there twice with some whacky numbers… fixed that, too. He’s at 8 – double checked roster.
I have Jones at 29 based on the fact that he’s only played in 16 games… healthy scratch as well?
Will post the official update after I get the other teams situated from last night. Thanks for the numbers!
by Sabres in Seven on Jan 17, 2012 5:14 PM EST up reply actions
Jones and Meech are our 7th / 8th D men.
They have been healthy scratches a few times each.
The full story is Hainsey went down early, Jones and Meech took turns filling in, but they both got hurt, then Stuart got hurt. This resulted in Festerling and Flood getting called up. Then festerling got hurt so Postma got called up. Then Postma had a death in the family, he went down and Kulda got called up. Enstrom got hurt somewhere in that stretch too. Then Jones came back, then he got hurt again.
We went through 12 D men in the first 2 – 3 weeks.
Oh boy.
Well without digging through game notes for 45 games… I’ll just call it a day at 40 for Meech and 23 for Jones. Kind of meets in the middle between too many and not enough.
Thanks for the help!
by Sabres in Seven on Jan 17, 2012 5:57 PM EST up reply actions
what a story
Too bad that’s actually what happened
In Canada our balls are bigger
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by canadian texan on Jan 17, 2012 7:33 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Atlanta's 2nd half crash
was as predictable as Minnesota’s this year. Both teams were getting fairly lucky early in the season, and were simply giving up too many shots to keep it up at that level. This year’s Jets have played better than that, shot-wise.
Frankly, it doesn’t matter whether you have a 1st line or 2 2nd lines or 3 3rd lines, if you are playing good hockey and winning with it you’re going to be okay.
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by Bettman's Nightmare on Jan 17, 2012 1:19 PM EST reply actions
I'm disappointed...
no one has picked up on the Simpsons reference!
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Basically you’re still paying for the sins of Don Waddell with the thin roster. It’s going to take years to undo that kind of damage. Machecek, Postma and Kulda, none of whom have been able to stick in their NHL trials, represent the best of the Waddell draft picks currently in the system. Klingberg was a Dudley pick as Dudley ran the final 2 Atlanta drafts, the first as assistant GM and the second as GM.
Basically you’re in the same position the Thrashers were in last season. If Pavelec and Mason play like All Stars, you’ll make the playoffs. If they don’t, you won’t. As far as Kane goes, I do get that he’s inconsistent, but at least he seems to be making strides (as does Bogo) that he couldn’t make in Atlanta. The Jets seem a lot better coached then they were in Atlanta for the most part. I’m not saying Noel is perfect, but he’s definitely better than Ramsay.
I wouldn't call our team deep, but I also wouldn't call them that thin.
We basically spent our summer acquiring bottom 6 forwards to give us some depth there. I think we’re lacking the top-tier talent still.
Paul Friesen is still an idiot. I would refute his argument more, but I refuse to click the link.
You have been banned from Stampede Blue.
You apparently aren't interested in commenting on the Colts, but instead just want to take shots at editors for how we manage our blog. Thus, you're now no longer welcome.
by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Jan 17, 2012 5:19 PM EST reply actions
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