Jets Comparables VIII: AHL Translations
Every Monday we'll be using the Snepsts System to search the NHL's history for players with comparable era-adjusted statistics to today's Jets, and featuring the analysis here at Arctic Ice Hockey. A description and example of the methodology can be found on Hockey Prospectus. To see how this worked for the Calgary Flames last season, visit Flames Nation.
To set objective scoring expectations, we've spent the last six weeks searching NHL's vast history for players with similar era-adjusted statistics as virtually every player on the Winnipeg Jets roster with sufficient NHL experience. But what do we do with those who have spent large parts of their recent career in the AHL?
This week we'll use AHL-to-NHL translations (NHL Equivalencies) to set expectations for the non-NHL regulars on the roster: Tim Stapleton, Ben Maxwell, Brett Festerling and Derek Meech.
Tim Stapleton
Tiny, undrafted American winger Tim Stapleton got his first real taste of the NHL last season after 2 strong seasons in Finland and 3 in the AHL, and wound up scoring the final goal in Atlanta Thrashers history. This off-season he competed for team USA in the IIHF world tournament, and is poised to continue his stint as an NHL regular.
Vukota: 43 6 5 11
AHL: 73 30 29 59 (in 2009-10)
NHL: 73 7 7 14
Comparables: Toby Peterson, Craig MacDonald, Tim Jackman, Ryan Bayda
In 2010-11 he scored 19 points in 24 AHL games (roughly the same scoring rate as 2009-10), and just 7 in his 52 NHL games, which is unfortunately typical of the AHL-to-NHL scoring drop-off of older AHL players (he turned 29 in July).
Back when he was 26 he managed 79 points in 70 games, but even that would have only been the NHL equivalent of 25 points, given the precedent of players like John Pohl and Denis Hamel. At his age and size, Stapleton is most likely a low-scoring depth option should he manage to remain with the Jets all season.
Ben Maxwell
23-year-old Ben Maxwell, acquired from the Montreal Canadiens for Brent Sopel and Nigel Dawes, could finally be ready to stick as an NHL regular after three years in the AHL.
Vukota: 29 4 5 9
AHL: 49 11 30 41
NHL: 49 5 13 18
Comparables: Maxime Talbot, Jannik Hansen
The NHL equivalent of Maxwell's three AHL seasons have very consistently been in the 0.32 to 0.35 points per game range. Though he has scored just 2 points in his 32 NHL games so far, his AHL stats suggest he could contribute up to 25-30 if given the opportunity over a full season.
Brett Festerling
Brett Festerling, acquired from Montreal for goalie Drew MacIntyre last February, is a stay-at-home defenseman with good work ethic and leadership qualities, but not much in the way of scoring.
Vukota: 33 1 5 6
AHL: 53 3 13 16
NHL: 53 2 8 10
Comparables: Michael Sauer, Adam Pardy
Festerling, who I've long maintained should be moved to San Jose to play with Boyle, had his best AHL season scoring-wise, earning 0.3 PTS/GP – after three years consistently in the 0.18-0.21 range.
Previously his comparables were Niklas Grossman, Ryan Parent, Alain Nasreddine, Mark Fistric and Matt Jones, setting his expected NHL points per game closer to 0.15 than 0.2. Either way, if he makes the team it won't be for his scoring.
Derek Meech
Signed in the off-season, Derek Meech is primarily a defensive-minded defenseman, but can play the wing as well. He was Dion Phaneuf's blue line partner in the WHL, and an extremely well-respected player: making an AHL all-star team, being named Detroit's 2007-08 rookie of the year, and even being petitioned to have his name engraved on the Stanley Cup despite not playing a single playoff minute and just 32 regular seasons games. He could easily be one of this year's pleasant surprises.
Vukota: (None)
AHL: 74 10 27 37
NHL: 74 5 14 19
Comparable: Jay Garrison
Coming off his best season in the AHL, and coming home to Manitoba, could surprise everyone with a 20-point season if he makes the team and everything falls into place. More realistically he'll spend only part of the season in Winnipeg, and get only enough 3rd-line minutes for a handful of points.
Next week
Finally we'll put it all together – next week we'll take a look at not just the expected output of the Winnipeg Jets, but also the best-case and worst-case scenarios.
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A Wings fan's perspective.
I wrote a longer blogpost before last season on Derek Meech and his future: http://fightnightatthejoe.blogspot.com/2010/08/meech-decision.html
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by Andy from FightNight on Sep 26, 2011 7:08 AM EDT reply actions
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Positional flexibility is the big sell for him. Unfortunately, he might never get the kind of minutes he needs to put up points in the NHL.
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by Bettman's Nightmare on Sep 26, 2011 11:15 AM EDT reply actions
IF
he ends up on a line with Kane and Scheifele…he’s bound to produce
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by canadian texan on Sep 26, 2011 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Would Scheifle play for you guys this year?
I was skeptical on the pick.
Stupid me. He looks good this preseason. Very good. Would he play this year? He’s certainly impressed. Like Skinner last year
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by sanjosesharksfan on Sep 26, 2011 11:44 PM EDT reply actions
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Well played.
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Voted for Stapleton
On the basis that I think he’ll make the club over Maxwell, though I think Maxwell would earn more points. I just don’t see Maxwell playing anything but Centre and we have uber depth there
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by canadian texan on Sep 28, 2011 12:51 AM EDT reply actions

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