Please Get Buff Off of the Blue Line.
Dustin Byfuglien is a beast. Don't believe me? Ask Roberto Luongo. If there are two things that would give the Vancouver Canucks netminder nightmares when he sleeps, it is the sound of the Chelsea Dagger and the thought of Big Buff sitting in front of his crease. Actually, there might be three, with the third being getting booed and jeered by the Canucks fan base every single night. But I digress. Watching Buff absolutely decimate the competition with 11 goals in 22 games during the Chicago Blackhawks' run to the Stanley Cup in 2009 was a sight to behold, as he was an unstoppable force when he was put up front to reek havoc in the crease. I remember this quite vividly, as Big Buff was a Canucks killer, and I cursed his name nightly.
Fast forward to later that summer, and the Hawks had to purge their championship team due to the cap. Big Buff ends up as one of the casualties, as he is sent down to Atlanta to join the Thrashers. Coming off of such a fantastic playoff run, he had to continue putting up big numbers on the right-wing down in Georgia, right? Wrong. They instead put him back to defense, which I must admit is his initial and preferred position, but in doing so ignored the entire playoff run from the previous season where he developed into a feared and virtually unstoppable force. Brilliant.
The experiment seemed to work like a charm, as Byfuglien led the league in goals from a defenseman with 20 last season, and finished the year with 53 points from the back end. Fantastic numbers to be sure. However, if you dig a little deeper you will see that in the last 40 games in Atlanta Thrasher's history, Buff tallied a grand total of 5 goals and 8 assists. The first 41 games? 15 goals, 25 assists. It was very easy to see how the Thrash were division leaders and appeared playoff bound halfway through the season, as one of their d-men was a point-per-game player. At the peak of this hot streak, Buff signed a 5-year deal worth $26 million, an annual cap-hit of $5.2 million.
But then the team began their swan dive to end the year, and it coincided with Buff's struggles in the second half of the year. The question I have is which one caused the other? In my humble opinion, it sure looked like teams around the league figured out how to handle Byfuglien on his offensive forays. And if the Thrasher's record to end their season was any indication, shutting Buff down equaled shutting down the Thrashers.
Fast forward to today, and the Atlanta Thrashers are gone and the Winnipeg Jets have returned. However, this is largely the Thrashers lineup from last season, and the Jets have come out of the gate in much the same way this team finished last season in Georgia. The Jets spend $23 million on their eight defenseman (Buff, Zach Bogosian, Tobias Enstrom, Ron Hainsey, Mark Stuart, Johnny Oduya, Randy Jones and Derek Meech), yet they are terrible defensively. Unfortunately for the team, Buff not only makes the most money but he has been the weakest defensively of them all (with a close second going to Johnny "Mr. Giveaway" Oduya".)
What is my proof? Well, I am not well versed with the advanced statistics and sabermetrics that Hawerchuk and Bettman's Nightmare are, so I don't have any other stats to give you other than this: 6 games, -5 rating. However, I have watched every game so far, and when I see odd-man rushes against the Jets they are usually because Dustin Byfuglien is caught up ice after ending up behind the opponent's icing line. Buff and his roving ways make Mike Green look like Adam Foote in all of his stay-at-home glory. That is a scary thought.
If that is a scary thought, then imagine seeing the only guy on the Jets roster slower then Buff, Nik Antropov, skating backwards defending a 3-on-2 because Buff is again caught up ice. I saw this happen again last night. It is as terrifying as it sounds. In his own zone, I have two glaring examples of his play that led to easy goals against. Last night Buff just stood there and watched as Jason Spezza roofed the eventual game winner, and in Phoenix his brutal turnover behind the net 30 seconds into the game set the tone of that stinker.
It is apparent that Buff wants to get up in the play. He helped provide the screen on Tobias Enstrom's PP goal against the Maple Leafs the other night. When Mark Scheifele buried his first goal off of a Buff rebound, the big guy was already behind the goal line. So why not let him be up in the play? Why make him skate all the way back into his end so he can pretend to play defense?
Put him on a wing opposite of Evander Kane and let them go crazy. Let him and Andrew Ladd pound away on the opposition along the boards. Heck, let him and Kyle Wellwood "feast" on the other team's young players (ba dum ching). Seriously though, we have Randy Jones on a one-way deal worth $1.15 million sitting the press box. Between him and Derek Meech, we have decent 6th and 7th guys. What we don't have is a huge body up front to torment the opposition goalies.
I am not alone in this thinking. TSN 1290 radio here in Winnipeg has been flooded with non-stop calls with fans wanting Claude Noel to make this move, as do many local message boards. I've spent many lunch breaks talking about this in the staff room. When Buff is down low we are able to sustain pressure, it's as simple as that, but why bother with this charade of him getting back to play D? Unfortunately, I don't know if it will ever happen, especially after Noel gives this humdinger of a quote after the Senators loss (quote from the Ottawa Citizen):
"Byfuglien is a really special player, we don’t mind him roving if it’s a controlled rove"
Yikes. A controlled rove. Now I've heard it all. How about instead of allowing him to "rove in a controlled manner", put him on the right wing so be can dominate down low in a controlled manner? We have other guys who can play defense just as poorly as Byfuglien who make less money and don't have the offensive capabilities that he has. Let them go back and get the puck instead while Buff gets ready to mount another attack on another goaltender Luongo-style.
Hey, with a record of 1-4-1, it couldn't hurt to try. Could it?
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Calling for a player to change positions after 6 games is a bit much IMO
The fact that our top 4 forwards (Ladd, Little, Wheeler, Kane) have combined for one goal in 6 games has more to do with our losses than Buff pinching.
Also, Buff has not been our worst D man. Oduya and Jones have been flat out disgusting. They have forked over breakaway attempt after breakaway attempt and based on my quick math they have been solely responsible for about 35% of our goals against.
Eventually, our top players shots will turn into goals. Kane and Wheeler can’t have a zero percent shooting percentage all year.
The biggest concerns are the PK, penalties at bad times, turnovers and the 10 minutes per game where the team goes to sleep.
Really?
I’m not asking him to play a position he hasn’t played before. And while I agree with your points, Buff has made as many bad plays as Oduya, Jones has only dressed for one game, and of the 3 Buff has the talent to make a difference up front.
We need to switch something up, and this is my proposal. And I’m not alone, as on TSN Radio this morning they asked Chevaldayoff about due to the non-stop calls from the fans to make this happen.
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Here's my question
Do you cut Buff’s minutes down to 10-15? Would he be on the second line with Burmi and Antro, or on the third with Kane and whoever?
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by Bettman's Nightmare on Oct 21, 2011 10:31 AM EDT up reply actions
After Noel put his line blender on Puree in the third last night
I don’t know what our lines look like anymore. Personally, I’d like to see him with Kane somehow.
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I think most fans cry for action too fast. People are also calling for the coaches head.
Two weeks ago, people were outraged that the team would still consider sending Scheifele back down, where did those arguments go? Fans are crazy, level heads usually prevail.
The season is only six games in and Buff hasn’t been the biggest problem. Turnover, PK, Penalties have killed us and the top 4 forwards aren’t scoring.
In a related note, those top 4 forwards were the top4 forwards last year, with Buff playing defense. They are already generating chances and eventually those chances will start turning into goals.
Yes, Jones only played one game, but he was AWFUL in that game. Oduya has all but handed our opponents two games, moving Buff forward means more ice for them.
I am not comfortable with that idea. We are already seeing to much of them with Hainsey out.
If we have a strength, it is offence from the blue line. Moving Buff forward all but takes this away.
Simmer down. Wait a few weeks.
Last year the Thrashers Missed the Playoffs
with Buff playing defense.
This has nothing to do with the 6 games either. I wanted this out of training camp. Why he was ever moved back to defense in the first place is beyond me.
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I don't know why he was moved...
But moving Buff to the wing does not :
a) stop players from taking dumb penalties
b) fix the PP
c) fix the PK
d) make the “top line” score at the rate they did last year
e) strengthen the team defensively
f) make this team a playoff contender
If he does move up, who does he bump down? He has never been a prolific scorer on the wing, not even in junior hockey. As a pro, he has actually produced less on the wing than Blake Wheeler, Nick Antropov and Andrew Ladd… Is he bumping them? Is he taking minutes from Kane? Is he taking minutes from Burmi? Fehr?
Yeah, I hope he doesn't take away minutes from Stapleton or MacLean
It won’t fix a, b or c, but I think it could effect d and e.
The Top Line might see less of the other team’s top d-pairing if Buff is out there. Besides, I’m getting worried about our “top-line” at the moment, and Noel is already switching them up mid game. The only guys that need to stay together is Burmi and Antropov, the rest are interchangeable IMO.
Would it strengthen the team defensively? I think in a way the answer is yes. Like I said, Buff is the rover who is constantly being caught up ice leading to odd-man rushes. And I can’t fault Jones for his one bad game – he hasn’t had a chance to fit in yet and was thrown to the wolves.
As for your last point of will it make this team a playoff contender? Who knows. But at 1-4-1 and playing a stinker every few games, I don’t think that the status quo will make us a contender either.
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Would it strengthen the team defensively?
No. Because Oduya, Meech and Jones are worse than Buff. Period. It isn’t close. They give away more scoring chances with little to no offensives upside.
Buff’s career high point total as a winger is 36. That puts him behind players like Wheeler, Antropov and Ladd historically. Burmi and Kane need ice time to grow.
So that leaves us with less capable D, less offence from our D and Buff playing 3rd or 4th line minutes in place of MacLean or Stapelton. That really doesn’t seem like it will fix anything.
Worse then Buff?
At providing offense, sure. But defensively? Sorry, but I don’t see it. Buff isn’t any more of a steadying influence back there then the other guys. Besides, I think that Meech has been okay and no more of a liability. Heck, on the PP Buff is in front of the net anyways.
I guess we’ll agree to disagree. But for a team that struggles to score goals, I don’t know why we are keeping a potentially lethal offensive weapon on the blue line, especially when he ends up deep in the offensive zone anyways.
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Buff isn't a lethal offensive weapon as a winger and he never has been.
And yes, Oduya and Jones have been plenty worse defensively.
We can agree to disagree, but those ^^ are facts.
B)
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by canadian texan on Oct 21, 2011 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Hahaha.
Win.
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by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Oct 21, 2011 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions
He apparently prefers playing defence
Though it gets to a point where a coach needs to say, “Well, since you don’t really play defence, I’m putting you on wing.”
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by Bettman's Nightmare on Oct 21, 2011 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions
View From Chicago
This is all good in theory.
The problem, having watched Buff in Chicago for several seasons, is that he won’t fulfill your expectations of a power forward on a nightly basis and you’ll be just as frustrated.
He was an absolute dynamo in the 2010 postseason, and against Vancouver in the 2009 Playoffs as well, but his regular-season performance as a forward left a lot to be desired. He doesn’t plant in front of the net, he doesn’t use his frame as an advantage below the goal line, he doesn’t pound opposing defensemen within a dump-and-chase style. He coasts, he floats, he eases up. If anything, putting him on the blue line forces him to remain somewhat focused on the task at hand, even while he’s freelancing, because he knows he has more responsibility.
It’s no coincidence that the most notable highlight of his 2009-10 season, prior to the Playoffs, was an end-to-end rush in OT against the Rangers. He flashes these ridiculous skills that make you demand more, but it rarely comes.
That contract will be an albatross, if it’s not already, regardless of what position he plays.
You may be right.
But I’d rather him be floating around as a forward then as a d-man. So many odd-man rushes have resulted from him being the d-man caught up ice. If he wants to be up there, let him be up there with somebody else playing defense. That’s all I am saying.
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Agree. I like Buff, but honestly I think all some people have seen of him is that playoff run...
…and that isn’t an accurate reflection of his career.
Yes, Buff was effective in that playoff run creating havoc in front of the net, but he was arguably at his most effective EVER throughout the first half of last season playing D. He was never a dominant winger.
People need to remember that Buff set career highs for goals and assists last year. He beat his next best season by almost 20 points. He may have trailed off, but if he can regain a glimpse of what he had in the first half of last season… That is where Buff can be a big difference maker and where he will likely make the biggest impact.
Oh, it's already an albatross
And it only gets worse when you move him from playing nearly 30 minutes a night to 15.
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by Bettman's Nightmare on Oct 21, 2011 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Oduya has looked okay
if you ignore the 3 or 4 blatantly horrific giveaways that led directly to goals against. Jones hasn’t had a chance to gel yet, he’s dressed for one game and looked lost.
Buff did nothing when Spezza scored the GWG last night other then stand there and screen Pavelec. His brutal giveaway in Phoenix 30 seconds in set the tone for that night. He has been the cause for numerous odd-man rushes against. He hasn’t been good defensively. Can you disagree with that?
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To each his own I guess.
When he actually plays the position I think he’s above average at it. I’ve seen a lot of good defensive plays out of him. Hell, it’s not hard to find examples where Engstrom looks terrible and I think he’s a top tier defenseman.
I think coaching staff can work with him to pick his spots a little better. In the end I think we have to accept him ’re suck with him the way he is. Like others mentioned he came to Atlanta because they would let him play the position he wanted. I think moving him to forward is going to result in an unmotivated 40ish point forward and a whole lot more minutes for some bad defenseman.
There's a reason Johnny O is bringing up the rear in RelCorsi.
Buff is a plus behind only Engstrom and 2 games of Derek Meech.
Hainsey is leading the team and I thought he was our most consistent D man before he got hurt.
Being without him for the next two weeks is going to hurt.
Engstrom
Sorry, that’s twice now, it’s Enstrom, not Engstrom. If you’re gonna come here and talk about him at least take 5 seconds to look his name up.
by SpezzDropPass on Oct 21, 2011 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions
It's actually pronounced similarly to Engstrom
So the confusion is understandable
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by Bettman's Nightmare on Oct 21, 2011 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions
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by canadian texan on Oct 21, 2011 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions
The positives outweigh the negatives on this one, in my opinion.
Positives: more scoring (we desperately need it ) + less of Buff’s defensive breakdowns. He can run around on the ice like he seems to love doing, but this time without leaving Enstrom by himself. We’d also benefit from some added physical presence up front.
Negative: The only negative I see is this allows more playing time for Oduya, and that scares me. He’s been okay, but whenever he makes a mistake, they are very, very evident and very, very costly. He can’t seem to break out of the zone without messing up at least one pass.
What I would like is for Buff to move to the wing, and then call up Postma, moving one offensive defenseman in for another. Bogo-Enstrom, Postma-Stuart, Oduya-Meech.
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by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Oct 21, 2011 1:00 PM EDT reply actions
I wouldn't mind them calling up Kulda
and Postma too, with Jones and Oduya on waivers, but those moves would be such a drastic reaction that I don’t think it’d be best to do it this early in the year.
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by Bettman's Nightmare on Oct 21, 2011 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions
I think they're leery of going to the farm so early and perhaps often.
I think either Kulda or Postma will get the call, but I’d be surprised if both moved up. I’m fine with holding onto Jones for now as a warm body, but I have no issue with putting Oduya on waivers right this moment.
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by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Oct 21, 2011 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions
I think they have to keep Oduya around until Hainsey gets healthy.
Jones will probably get another look. He was actually worse than Oduya in his start.
When it comes to call ups, any thoughts on Festerling getting the look over Kulda?
To be honest
I really don’t know much about Festerling at all.
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by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Oct 21, 2011 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions
u thought Festerling looked quite good in the preseason. I had him over Jones and Kulda on my depth chart
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by canadian texan on Oct 21, 2011 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions
I thought*
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by canadian texan on Oct 21, 2011 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Festerling looked good
and I thought Kulda was not very impressive. As for why we signed Jones in the first place, who knows, but he is a serviceable depth guy. Isn’t he?
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I think so.
Just an average, spare D-man.
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by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Oct 21, 2011 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Buff produced less offence as a winger than he did as a D man.
Buff put up a high of 36 points as a winger.
People’s entire perception is built on 3 playoff series. Buff was not a 20 goal scorer until last year.
Wheeler, Ladd, Kane and Antropov have historically been more effective wingers than Buff.
Do we want him taking ice from them and Burmi? Why? Becuase he is big?
If Buff moves to forward, we would lose a D man who led the league in points and add a forward who scores at about the same rate as Fehr… but he would be big.
Oduya and Jones are far scarier on the back end than Buff. I wan them to get as little ice as possible. Buff playing half the game helps with that.
As a third line winger.
I hear what you are saying, but his 36 points wasn’t alongside Toews and Kane. I don’t know if that snapshot of his career as a forward is accurate. Perhaps you are right and it wouldn’t work, but I’d like to see what he could with 20-22 minutes a night up front.
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His time on our squad wouldn't be next to Kane and Toews either..
Buff played in the Chi for 3 years where he averaged almost 16 minutes a game.
He never scored more than 36 points.
In Boston Wheeler had less ice time and scored more.
Ladd, Little, Wheeler, Fehr, Antropov and Kane have had seasons where they out produced Buff’s best season as a winger. Burmi look like he may join that group this year.
It could be interesting to see him play RW, but seriously compromising the talent, scoring and depth of our defense for a player that might be our third best RWer doesn’t make sense to me.
Even in Chicago’s cup year, Buff was a minus player who scored a grand total of 6 goals between the start of December and the start of May.
That is 6 goals in 5 full months.
That is 6 goals in 48 games
Buff did not miss a single game in that stretch.
Buff averaged over 16 minutes a game during that stretch.
FWIW he also had 14 assists in that stretch
Not mind blowing numbers.
He is a streaky player at the best of times and he has a tendency to trail off as the season wears on.
The 2010 playoff outburst was the only time in his career he has put together a double digit points in any full month after November.
I don't disagree that Oduya and Jones are scary.
I’m not advocating for them to get more ice time. I’m advocating that Postma should be getting their ice time, if Buff is moved to the wing. And really, I don’t see why we shouldn’t try him on the wing, if nothing more than as an experiment. We’re 1-4-1. We’ve looked awful in at least four of those games. Offensively we can’t score, defensively we can’t stop anybody. Quite honestly, Byfuglien has contributed to both of those issues (though certainly not the root cause).
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by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Oct 21, 2011 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions
While we're on the topic of Buff...
am I the only one in favour of trading him?
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by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Oct 21, 2011 1:19 PM EDT reply actions
I only speak for myself...but yes you're alone
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by canadian texan on Oct 21, 2011 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions
I don’t know where he fits in…but I’d rather have him on our team than not. He can be a beast in the offensive zone, and he can be offensive in the defensive zone. And he throws big time bodychecks. If we can harness his skill and tone down his “i’m 50 beyond an odd man rush” tendencies then I think we got a keeper
And keep him away from boats
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by canadian texan on Oct 21, 2011 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions
This team is several years away from contention.
My reason for trading him is that we might as well deal him now, get a pick, and continue to stockpile pieces down the road. His salary eventually won’t mesh with what we want to do, and he’s too reckless defensively for me to want to keep him around.
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by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Oct 21, 2011 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions
true he doesn’t necessarily go with the team first mentality. It’s kind of “whatever Buff wants to do” tactics out there…and he probably would get the highest return possible at this point
But i still say keep him for now…my mind might change by late February
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by canadian texan on Oct 21, 2011 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Basically if the team isn't fighting for the 8th playoff spot at the deadline,
I would pull the trigger right away.
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by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Oct 21, 2011 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Who'd take his contract?
$5.2M for another 4 years. That’s a spicy meatball.
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There's always a sucker at the deadline.
I swear it makes GMs go crazy.
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by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Oct 21, 2011 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Problem is
one of them was Don Waddell…
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by Bettman's Nightmare on Oct 21, 2011 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Very true.
But we have someone who had a hand in dealing Buff to him.
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by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Oct 21, 2011 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't want him to be traded, especially not after 6 games.
Give the coaching staff some time and let them try to mold him.
Trust me, this isn't based on his 6 game sample, though they haven't been stellar.
I was advocating for this in the offseason.
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by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Oct 21, 2011 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions
As I mentioned before
his contract is unappealing to teams, so we might have to accept less or eat salary to move him.
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by Bettman's Nightmare on Oct 21, 2011 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions
I would accept less to move him.
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by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Oct 21, 2011 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions
I am not looking to trade him.
I just want to see what he can do up front, with top-6 minutes. I don’t think he got the opportunity in Chicago behind Kane, Toews, Sharp and company, and I don’t think his old numbers reflect his potential as a top-6 power forward.
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I agree 100%
We need a true power forward upfront. Our forwards are getting tossed around out there. Our most physical forward seemed to be Burmistrov last night which is insanity!! Buff isnt throwing his weight around enough on the blueline and seems to be out of shape, He cant be paying the minutes he has been. I say throw him upfront to throw his weight around in the corners and stand infront of the net! If they want his shot on the point on the powerplay then fine.
Why not compromise?
Keep Dustin Byfuglien on the blueline, but pair him with a reliable stay-at-home defenseman, either Mark Stuart or Ron Hainsey (depending on hos steps up as the better stay-at-home guy and/or who develops better chemistry with Byfluglien). Then plant him in front of the net on the powerplay, the way the Boston Bruins have with Zdeno Chara.
The coaching staff, particularly Charlie Huddy, need to work with Dustin to teach him when to rove, when to pinch and when to stay put.
He’s had success in both roles, but if he enjoys defense better, give him a chance to develop as a defenseman. It’s a hard position to learn, especially when your continuously shifted up front. Hopefully this is where Huddy, Stuart and Hainsey come in to mentor him.
Although the Jets have retained quite a few of the Atlanta Thrashers, there also many new players. There’s new management, new coaching staff and a whole new city. The whole team needs to adjust to each other, to the coach’s, to the city. Give them some slack!
Worst case scenario Winnipeg picks in the Top 5 in the 2012 Entry Draft. That’s the best way to grab some young impact players, providing Kevin Cheveldayoff does not repeat the Thrashers mistakes of rushing players into the NHL (This goes for Mark Scheifele as well!)
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by GelatinousMutantCoconut on Oct 22, 2011 6:02 PM EDT reply actions
I've thought about the same thing
Only in opposite: put him at forward for even-strength, but D on the powerplay. You won’t get the kind of defensive learning that you are proposing, but my suspicion is that he partly likes defence because he can sit back there and boom the puck.
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by Bettman's Nightmare on Oct 22, 2011 6:46 PM EDT up reply actions

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