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Goaltender Talent vs Performance

Sunny wrote something in his post that might seem a bit confusing:

"No one has conclusively shown a meaningful difference in skill between NHL goaltenders. I’m not saying it doesn’t exist, I’m just saying no one’s really proved it, and that all signs point to goaltending differences being far less important than everyone thinks."

Sunny's claim is that differences in talent are far smaller than people think.  And indeed they are - if you signed Tomas Vokoun to a long-term contract, you got a great deal on a superstar goalie, but his true talent is still only about 5.5 wins per season better than that of the 30th-best regular goaltender (Ray Emery at the moment...)  However, goaltenders can clearly exceed their talent levels, which gives you seasons like Ryan Miller's 2009-10, which may be worth 9-10 wins.

As I showed before, there's no good reason to expect a season-long hot streak to continue into the playoffs, so the difference between goaltenders is closer to their long-term averages.  If a team went from a scrap-heap goaltender to Vokoun in net, they'd go from 40/60 underdogs to 60/40 favorites - but in a playoff series, the difference between the best goalie (Halak? Luongo? Brodeur? Anderson? Miller?) to the worst is smaller than during the regular season.  Being favored 55% instead of being a 45% underdog is a big deal, but it's not a four-game sweep kind of deal.

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Is the decrease in goalie differential in the playoffs because the worst goalies are generally the ones who don’t make the playoffs? Would there be much of a difference if the Rangers and Henrik Lundqvist had made the playoffs over the Flyers and Boucher?

"The only way out is in a body bag. Go Leafs Go." - Blinky

by Karina on Apr 13, 2010 7:12 PM EDT reply actions  

Yeah, Boucher would seem to be the worst goalie in the playoffs. Usually you can’t make it without a good one…Getting in on a shootout seems like an indication that your team is flawed.

by Hawerchuk on Apr 13, 2010 7:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ray Emery the worst goalie in the league? ES save % 0.930? His W/L looks bad because of horrific offensive support.

My votes would be Osgood, Huet, or Leclaire, all under 0.900 at even strength.

by DoctorMyBrainHurts on Apr 13, 2010 11:15 PM EDT reply actions  

He said 30th-best.

Leclaire is no doubt in the 40s somewhere.

Silver Seven: the Daniel Alfredsson of Ottawa Senators blogs.

by DarrenM on Apr 14, 2010 12:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

Oops, I didn't see regular goalie.

Silver Seven: the Daniel Alfredsson of Ottawa Senators blogs.

by DarrenM on Apr 14, 2010 12:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

What’s Ray Emery’s five-year save percentage? I mean, is Mikka Kiprusoff one of the best goalies in the league? Please!

by Hawerchuk on Apr 14, 2010 2:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

Toskala?

"The only way out is in a body bag. Go Leafs Go." - Blinky

by Karina on Apr 14, 2010 7:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

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