Do Fighters Ever Prosper?
by Hawerchuk on Jul 16, 2009 1:20 PM EDT
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New column on Puck Prospectus:
http://www.puckprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=222
"I looked at every fight during the 2008-09 season where one player received was voted the winner by at least 50% of fans. Since many people vote that a fight was a draw, this picks out only the fights with a clear winner. I then looked at how many goals the winner's team scored and allowed over the next 10 minutes and over the rest of the game. I compared this goal differential with how an average NHL team did given the same initial score and time on the clock. That is, if a team was down 2-1 at the midway point of the 2nd period and won a fight, I compared their performance to all teams that were down 2-1 midway through the second."
http://www.puckprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=222
"I looked at every fight during the 2008-09 season where one player received was voted the winner by at least 50% of fans. Since many people vote that a fight was a draw, this picks out only the fights with a clear winner. I then looked at how many goals the winner's team scored and allowed over the next 10 minutes and over the rest of the game. I compared this goal differential with how an average NHL team did given the same initial score and time on the clock. That is, if a team was down 2-1 at the midway point of the 2nd period and won a fight, I compared their performance to all teams that were down 2-1 midway through the second."
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Hey Gabe,
Great post, it really helps to illustrate the uselesness of Laraque punching Orr. Especially since those players are usually negative values for the icetime they are not fighting, minus someone like Carcillo.
I wonder though if you can attack the other myth of fighting. People always say that when a guy defends his teammate or whatever it really lifts his team. This isn't the enforcer, its a non-fighter usually.
So I know we can't measure the significane of each fight personally, but if you changed your sample to only include people who had like 3-4 or less fighting majors all year, it would be interesting.
Cheers
Corey
Great post, it really helps to illustrate the uselesness of Laraque punching Orr. Especially since those players are usually negative values for the icetime they are not fighting, minus someone like Carcillo.
I wonder though if you can attack the other myth of fighting. People always say that when a guy defends his teammate or whatever it really lifts his team. This isn't the enforcer, its a non-fighter usually.
So I know we can't measure the significane of each fight personally, but if you changed your sample to only include people who had like 3-4 or less fighting majors all year, it would be interesting.
Cheers
Corey
by the expos on Jul 17, 2009 1:27 PM EDT reply actions
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